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About Fi and Ti MBTI

If Fi is about internal values, ¿what would happen if the Fi user were to take logic and objectivity as part of their values? ¿How would that differ from Ti?

Posted by mstr-k on forum Posted on 2018-02-09 17:49:22

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I suppose it would be comparable to Ti considering it would be internal logic, but a comparison with Te would also be helpful

Remember that each function has their axes. With Fi comes Te, and Ti with Fe. Some FPs may have episodes of their Te eruptions and they turn cold and uncaring which makes them think they use Ti. The same reversed problem with TJs and their Fi.

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. Both Ti and Te can be logical and objective, but in a different way. You'd have to realize that if you have Fi, when you turn logical and objective, you'd probably use Te, or even Ne or Se, since both functions are objective perspectives, too.

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. So you probably have to learn to differentiate between each function and how each one manifests itself.

Yeah, I understand that.Information about Myers Briggs Type Indicator of About Fi and Ti. What I was referring to was not to eruptions of cold logic, but rather, to literally holding logic as a value, and how that would differ with an actual thinking function.

Like, checking if things are consistent with logic, from Fi

Oh I get it.Which of the 16 personality types is About Fi and Ti?. So you mean what if an INFP wants to try using Ti because they value it?  Here it is: your four functions are like your natural aptitude, while your shadow functions are like your dormant and subconscious ability.   Your four functions stacking have to complement one another (with their axes and everything) for an individual to stay  mentally healthy.  Therefore, if one tries to use their shadow funtion, it would likely to disrupt your natural aptitude, and you'd likely to be bad at it.  So I wouldn't recommend it.  See, for example INFP wants to use Ti, they would have to look at everything as a part of particles of reality.  Everything is generalized, scrutinized as it is, and no preferences, nothing is more important than anything else, even yourself.  Now imagine how that would be detrimental to INFP's mind.  I can only see it happens in the most unhealthy INFP ever.  Not to mention, with Ti comes Fe which means INFP will see compromising their authenticity to harmonize with the society more important than to stand their ground and be who they are.  Scary to think, to be honest.

If you want to be more objective, try using Ne (for INFP) or Se (for ISFP) in stead.  Both are objective function too and flow freely with your Fi.

Sorry, just realized I assume you're INFP.  For some reasons, this kind of question makes me feel like it's INFP asking, lol.

lol, I'm really not sure of which type I would be, but don't worry Thanks for answering, btw

Mono, I appreciate that you’re trying to be helpful, but the idea of function axes simply holds no ground. Think of it this way: dominant Fi is associated with IFP in combination, and dominant Te is associated with ETJ in combination. By the traits that are measured by the letter dichotomies, Fi is directly opposed to Te. By contrast, Fi and Ti share the letters IP in combination, so it makes sense for an INFP to be stronger in Ti traits than Te traits. This also fits with Jung’s idea of the inferior: he described it as the weakest function overall, not the 4th strongest out of 8. Again, I know you mean well, but it probably isn’t a good idea to tell an INFP they should focus on their weakest skills (“Te” traits) instead of skills they’re already good at (“Ti” traits).

It's kinda weird to me that you'd put the importance of dichotomy above the function axes. I studied function axes and I see that in everyone's mentality, there is a need for balance and connection to your light and shadow side. Dichotomy is more closely related to Big 5 and while it does play the role in shaping your temperament, cognitive functions need to be more considered if we're talking about MBTI and not Big 5.

I’ve studied function axes too, I’ve been interested in MBTI for about 3 years now. When I first discovered them I felt like I had found a hidden truth. But eventually I realized I was changing my thought patterns to fit the theory, and the theory wasn’t actually describing my thought patterns as they were beforehand. I found the functions held less and less water for me as time went on. That’s just my experience.

I guess Fi still 'colours' the logic by giving more importance to the factors he values instead of being black and white rationale. In other words, the Fi user will give more importance what he values in the moment whether is the logic or another thing. Example: You might know rationally that animals don't care about you and would eat you if they could without thinking twice but just because you know that 'your Fi doesn't believe' it's enough reason to eat meat if you are a vegetarian.