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Lars Von Trier MBTI

Myers Briggs type and personality details of 'Lars Von Trier'
Lars Von Trier MBTI type
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Television, Movie Industry and Mass Media

TOTAL MBTI VOTES: 31


INFJ - 22
ENFP - 5
INTP - 1
INFP - 1
INTJ - 1
ISFP - 1

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TOTAL ENNEA VOTES: 16


5W4 - 10
4W5 - 3
6W5 - 2
4W3 - 1

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I am the stone in your fucking shoe!!!!!Almost a walking stereotype for INFJ males. "Mysterious", mystical, obsessed with sex and death, etc etc etc.Hey, what about our messages? :( And I feel like I've had some pretty peaceful discussions, like recently about Tarkovsky, and also joking about me working for CelebrityTypes. Maybe it's my So/Sp that makes me somewhat fundamentally impersonal.

MBTI type of Lars Von Trier

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.. Might explain why I have such difficulties getting friends and stuff.Information about Myers Briggs Type Indicator of Lars Von Trier. Weird predicament to be in for an INFP, being too impersonal. I guess there is a sort of pattern to me being well-reasoned and controversial at the same time though, I simply don't bother to write on pages where I'm in agreement with the majority.Which of the 16 personality types is Lars Von Trier?. >.< I am contrarian, but basically in the sense that I only bother voicing concerns for unpopular causes.''I feel like you are constantly moving between complete disbelief of everything I have ever said and nearly complete acceptance'' Ha-ha, I'm a bit ashamed to recognize that ,but it's true. You are strangely convincing, at the same time I don't understand why you don't talk more about the people you think are INFP, this way we could put INFJ and ISFP better in your system side by side. I respect how much you put in your arguments, but I'm antagonized by what I percieve to be your contrarian attitude. I mean, I don't think you simply try to rise up controversy on this site for no reason as evidence that you really back up your claims, but it would be niece if we could have some relaxed chats from time to time where we simply agree with stuff. I'm kinda like with Scotty with you, another user I both fight with and appreciate, but even with Scotty I had more laid-back conversations than with you, although I understand it's not your intent.I feel like you are constantly moving between complete disbelief of everything I have ever said and nearly complete acceptance. All my arguments are meant to be piecemeal.Also, honestly I think Murakami means a lot, lot more to me than he does to you.By which I mean that we are very biased, controlled by emotions, etc., etc. Even INTJs and stuff.I don't actually identify that much with Cobain??? Most of the artists I like and identify with are in fact not INFPs and I don't necessarily talk that much about them on here either, in some cases because we instantly agreed on their type and in others because I think they are so uncontroversial or they just don't come up. In fact I became so interested in Nicolas Winding Refn in the first place this spring when I watched some of his older movies and that famous documentary and realized he was an INFP. >.< So if you see this as a battlefield for people we like and don't like ... I think that is the complete wrong way to go about this. I'm always trying to be "objective" even when it leads to surprising answers. It's kind of a Fi-fixation for me because I was really scienty/philosophcal for a while and really took that "humans are not reliable" thing seriously.#butterfly, Oh and Cobain is totally ISFP btw, so if I can't have Murakami, neither you can have Cobain.My argument is not meant to rest solely on any of these points though. It's the general impression which I think has many powerful points for INFJ. On the other hand, I think the INFP typing of Murakami is heavily "stereotyped". The only real reason to type him that seems to me to be his respect of individualism and the surrealism/strangeness of his books. I think upon closer inspection his respect of individualism is very dispassionate and societal though, and the surrealism/strangeness is actually quite elaborate, as said. Metaphors and themes between his books intersect and reflect each other as his views change.I don't see why Colonel Sanders=capitalism, necessary points to Ni. It's not like INFPs aren't capable of metaphors, specially rather simple and fun one's. Him being a jazz bar owner was from what I understand necessary as to avoid being a salary man, so it was kind of a life or death situation for him. Also, running marathons, liking classical music, food, routine, all those things could very well be Si as well. Se is not the only function that deals with sensory stuff. Running marathons requires patience, training, monotony, stuff that fits better with Si. Not all sports are necessary Se in nature, you sound like stereotyping Se with sensing in general. There are even successful STJ sports-men, and we're talking about more Se like sport like football or tennis. Classical music as well, it's not really the most Se type of music there is. One could argue he had to train his Si for a young age, so later in his life all those stuff come naturally to him. The epiphany thing and sudden decision to write is the only thing that points towards INFJ till now.It's not like he sold the book on a "special insights concerning the weirdness of Murakami's surrealism" sales claim.Translator who is also a guy making money from selling books that claim those things.Somebody.used.super.difficult.password.of.mineto.vote.INFJ.he's.no.INFJ.he's.entj.geniusBecause the translator is speaking from knowing Murakami personally and he attests; IIRC, that Murakami is being playful when he principally denies there is meaning to the surrealism. A lot of it is quite obvious though, as I tried to point out on the Murakami page. For example Colonel Sanders in Kafka on the Shore is quite obviously supposed to represent mechanical capitalism without any human input/pure evil or something like that.Why should one take the word of one's translator above the word of the author? The moment we take editors/translators/critics words above the authors, we enter in a negative zone of typing. Those people find symbolism in anything. You know, Lynch clearly knows what those stuff in his movies mean, as evidence by the countless people that find complex philosophical explanations for his movies, so he's clearly a very philosophically complex person. So, we either base ourselves only on what the author says, or Lynch and Kubrick are clear N types like this people on this site argued all this time.Yeah, you have a point with what you posted. But I think the solution to this is not that my system is wrong or that Murakami has a lot of INFJ traits, but that I try to make everyone out to be like the INFJ and INFP stereotypes. For example Dario Argento is a very "typical", pure INFP perhaps - whereas Nicolas Winding Refn is somewhere between INFP and ISFP/ISTP probably. Murakami, J. K. Rowling and Lars von Trier, who I admire and identify with the most and want to be the most like, are to be fair probably some kind of thing between INFJ and INFP - same as myself. What we lack in MBTI are these gliding scales. Everyone has to be EITHER an extreme INFP or an extreme INFJ, and that just captures a lot of people badly. After all, most people are going to be around the middle on most scaling systems. Perhaps the most honest way would be to type some people "between". I still feel like most people have some kind of "main type" though. Imo David Lynch is a lot more similar to most typical ISFPs than most typical INFPs and Lars von Trier is more similar to most INFJs than most INFPs. I think I'm probably more similar to the typical, extreme INFP than I am to the typical, extreme INFJ.Maybe when you've happily run a bar for 10 years and you after watching baseball have a Ni-epiphany to finally write that novel which is really not especially passionate, just about your disconnect to society. And then you go on to write tons of books about these societal issues, slowly becoming the Japanese Dickens while filling your novel full of mystical metaphors you understand on some nascent level but claim, winking, have no actual meaning while even your translator Jay Rubin asserts that they most obviously do. And then as you become older, you become more and more interested in Se-pursuits, living almost like a soldier, forcing yourself to work out for 3+ hours a day in all kinds of sports, all the while obsessing with food and classical music. When you've got all that covered, you can have Murakami totes.''I'm annoyed by directors etc. who try to make difficult art just to raise themselves above the masses which I believe is stupid because I think art is about inclusion and fellowship in the first place. ''//'' But the point is to bring people together (protector) while making them aware of their mistakes (critic).'' By this statements, you would have to type yourself as INFJ. Not to say you're one, you're most likely INFP, but some of the thing you argue as INFJ point obviously aren't, since you also identify with them. I, for example don't see why any of those things you say about Murakami and society are Fe, and not simply him being NF. Also, the guy said he didn't knew how to finish Hard Boiled Wonderland while he was at his last chapter, he then came with 3 possibilities, and eventually choose one of them, but he's not sure if he was the right one, and he could change it any time. That's not Ni-dom. Ni-dom is convergent, he would knew damn well how his last chapter should finish if he was INFJ. Also, INFJ being Ni-Ti tend to know quite well how every element plays in the whole, so they wouldn't say they don't know why they choose one thing over the other, or that they could change it anytime.No, Murakami is mine. Mine.This always makes my day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpUqpLh0iRw XD It's pretty obvious he's not serious, of course, so I just love how awkward and absurd it is@amelie: I totally agree about what you say about him being very singular and focused in the way he does his movies, they are these powerful wholes ... And there is just something so thorough to his movies and everything. Nymphomaniac is digressive too though. Like when they take breaks from the main story and talk about other things ... And the main story consists of many smaller episodes that stand very well on their own. And I remember an interview where he says this digressive, literary structure was something he did on purpose ... But I guess even that is a purposeful thing that plays into the whole as well. >.< I guess he's just a very well-rounded genius, and perhaps the drugs/drinking/mental illness have done something to him too? Also CelebrityTypes suggests he has antisocial traits, IIRC. Probably a Ni-dom to be fair then, but an unusual one. I think his F-ness, by the way, is clear from his interests and the high emotionalism of his movies. Also he is apparently really nice to his actors and famous for being extremely good with them, though there was that big thing with Björk. >.< (Perhaps Fi/Fe crash.) @bobnickmad: Lol, sometimes I worry that I have a negative self-image and that it controls my highly subjective MBTI system which is maybe just nonsense anyway?? I think I make sense though with Ne/Fi and stuff when all these people you name come out as INFPs. As for the people you dislike, I guess I'm just drawn/identify with antisocial artists and just got lucky with Winding Refn, lol. I wonder if I'm doomed to at best be someone like Del Toro or Argento ... Murakami is kind of like how I would like to be ideally, but to be fair I'm pretty sure he is an INFJ too.Oh God, why are you always trying to defend as INFPs people I feel antipathic towards -in the way they present their art (Refn, Trier), or I'm ambivalent towards -as in being inconsistent (Tim Burton, Del Toro, Argento). I like stuff from some of these people, but I feel you owe me someone I actually like all the way. Heh, you don't owe me anything, don't worry, but still...As much as I like his movies, I have never found the man particularly F-like in his ideas, that is to say that neither of his F functions appear like they normally should for other people, not saying he isn't F type. I think he is a very intuitive person, his movies are disturbingly singular in themes even when they appear not to be, he is focused on weird ideas in an obsessive way, Nymphomaniac is one such obsessive long story revolving around a single idea. I think his Ni is extremely strong and totally crazy and his Fe isn't as developed in comparison. I don't really know but this is how I see him. He seems relatively normal in the written interviews I've read of him, though... so you could be right about him Fe-ing all this stuff. :DAttempt to steal von Trier to the INFPs: For example he has very casually admitted that he imposes weird restrictions on himself, perhaps most famously the Dogme manifesto, in order to give his movies something unique and allow "intellectual" audiences to relax and enjoy the melodrama. Isn't this very pragmatic and unromantic? (Si) Would an INFJ talk like that? I've never met an INFJ that is this straightforward ... On the other hand, I guess he is Fe-ing "the perfectly honest, trickster artist"?I think he's a bit too old for me! What's an STFC patient?This could also be a symptom of being in proximity of an STFC patient.That dream clearly tells you not to let Lars von Trier marry your mom. You have to marry him instead. Start plotting now. Beware that in case of your marriage with Trier he'll change and start making rom-coms.If I followed the identification/same type thing that Bobnickmad sometimes argues for, I would probably identify as INFJ on account of people like Lars von Trier, Dostoyevsky, J. K Rowling, etc. being INFJs. I feel these are really the best artists. They are these really reliable, unfaltering institutions of culture that deliver works that feel picked straight out of eternity. I wonder if no matter how hard I struggle, I will always be a bit too idiosyncratic and unbalanced, like Nicolas Winding Refn and Kierkegaard, always seeking and never finding balance, or perhaps I have the whole INFJ/INFP distinction wrong, lol. Or whatever.This night I dreamed that my mom had divorced and married Lars von Trier. I thought Lars von Trier was such a cool guy, and then I did something wrong and he got really mad at me and screamed at me and I wasn't sure whether to be mad at myself for failing Lars von Trier or mad at Lars von Trier for being mad at me. I've no idea what this dream meant or why I'm telling you here.Always sad because Bergman never replied to his fan letters. But don't wowwyyy!!!! Because Bergman thought you were a real genius :DAren't INFJs supposed to know everything?The Danish movie industry might be the best from the 2000's along with the Korean IMO. Especially love Anders Thomas Jensen. They have many great actors too.Yeah, you're probably right. When you put it like that his way of being very provocative is very similar to Marilyn Manson. It's sort of like a cloak he wears rather than something that seems truly sincere. And as for the strangeness of his movies ... I guess there is something very Ti about playing with rules and stuff. And his weirdness, like filming without a set or making a pornographic art film, is usually a single weird thing he does really carefully rather than something full of strange ideas like David Lynch or Refn's movies (Ne). Anyway, I wonder why the Danish movie industry is so awesome. And it's such a small country too.The guy is so unhealthy it's hard to type him anyway. But all this porn stuff could very well be inferior Se.I don't know much about Von Trier, (I've only seen Dancer in The Dark which is good even though it's overly dramatical) but Fe auxiliary can be very provocative, look at Vikernes or Marilyn Manson for example.Is INFJ "celebritytypes.com syndrome"? Because I've always been very reluctant to accept this common typing of him. I just don't get it. Honestly he seems far more Ne to me than Ni with the weird rules of Dogme 95 or deciding to do a trilogy of artistic genre movies (The Depression Trilogy). Or just the way he filmed Dogville without proper sets ... Or even that weird documentary where he's having that guy remake the same weird, short movie under different rules. I don't see much Extraverted Feeling either. Just look at the whole nazi controversy and how full of provocations his movies are. At the same time, he seems too confident for an INFP. He's neurotic, but it seems to me to be in a different way than the self-conscious way INFPs typically are? So maybe he's an ENFP? Very difficult man to type imo.

The way many people describe working with him makes him sound like a feeler, but everything about his manner of interaction in interviews seems to point to NTP...most likely INTP.  4w5 also seems more likely than 5w4 since his movies are supposed to be imaginative spins on autobiographical experiences.  

One of those "INFJ" that really aren't FJ. Don't know his actualtype, but he's too unpersonable and awkward to be FJ.

Changed my mind to 5w4 because he mainly deals with incredibly bleak feelings that don't embrace his personal experiences.  Everything about his artistic craft makes him seem like a perceiver but this kinda sealed it for me:  "But how you get there is interesting, and it’s nice when it’s filled with lots of digressions. I also like when you’re completely at the mercy of the director, and don’t really know where you’re going. So! So we’ll put together a little menu, and we’re starting with something about... fly fishing. “But I didn’t come to the cinema to see something about fly fishing!” No. Exactly! It’s just decided that fly fishing is interesting. And almost everything that you immerse yourself in becomes interesting. Digressions are wonderful. I like that it becomes about helicopters, and all kinds of shit, just because Seligman happened to have recently read a book about something or other." A quote on Nymphomaniac.  Reminds me a little of the "Bell Jar. "