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About Fi and Ti

If Fi is about internal values, ¿what would happen if the Fi user were to take logic and objectivity as part of their values? ¿How would that differ from Ti?

Posted by mstr-k on forum Posted on 2018-02-09 17:49:22

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  • Posted on: 2018-02-09 21:43:51

    mono

     
    Remember that each function has their axes. With Fi comes Te, and Ti with Fe. Some FPs may have episodes of their Te eruptions and they turn cold and uncaring which makes them think they use Ti. The same reversed problem with TJs and their Fi.

    Both Ti and Te can be logical and objective, but in a different way. You'd have to realize that if you have Fi, when you turn logical and objective, you'd probably use Te, or even Ne or Se, since both functions are objective perspectives, too. So you probably have to learn to differentiate between each function and how each one manifests itself.

    • Posted on: 2018-02-09 23:57:33

      mstr-k

       

      Yeah, I understand that. What I was referring to was not to eruptions of cold logic, but rather, to literally holding logic as a value, and how that would differ with an actual thinking function.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 00:19:52

      mstr-k

       

      Like, checking if things are consistent with logic, from Fi


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 00:23:26

      mono

       

      Oh I get it. So you mean what if an INFP wants to try using Ti because they value it?  

      Here it is: your four functions are like your natural aptitude, while your shadow functions are like your dormant and subconscious ability.   Your four functions stacking have to complement one another (with their axes and everything) for an individual to stay  mentally healthy.  Therefore, if one tries to use their shadow funtion, it would likely to disrupt your natural aptitude, and you'd likely to be bad at it.  So I wouldn't recommend it.  See, for example INFP wants to use Ti, they would have to look at everything as a part of particles of reality.  Everything is generalized, scrutinized as it is, and no preferences, nothing is more important than anything else, even yourself.  Now imagine how that would be detrimental to INFP's mind.  I can only see it happens in the most unhealthy INFP ever.  Not to mention, with Ti comes Fe which means INFP will see compromising their authenticity to harmonize with the society more important than to stand their ground and be who they are.  Scary to think, to be honest.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 00:25:40

      mono

       

      If you want to be more objective, try using Ne (for INFP) or Se (for ISFP) in stead.  Both are objective function too and flow freely with your Fi.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 00:31:08

      mono

       

      Sorry, just realized I assume you're INFP.  For some reasons, this kind of question makes me feel like it's INFP asking, lol.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 00:37:02

      mstr-k

       

      lol, I'm really not sure of which type I would be, but don't worry

      Thanks for answering, btw


    • Posted on: 2018-02-10 15:43:01

      Zeego

       

      Mono, I appreciate that you’re trying to be helpful, but the idea of function axes simply holds no ground. Think of it this way: dominant Fi is associated with IFP in combination, and dominant Te is associated with ETJ in combination. By the traits that are measured by the letter dichotomies, Fi is directly opposed to Te. By contrast, Fi and Ti share the letters IP in combination, so it makes sense for an INFP to be stronger in Ti traits than Te traits. This also fits with Jung’s idea of the inferior: he described it as the weakest function overall, not the 4th strongest out of 8. Again, I know you mean well, but it probably isn’t a good idea to tell an INFP they should focus on their weakest skills (“Te” traits) instead of skills they’re already good at (“Ti” traits).


  • Posted on: 2018-02-09 16:49:43

    mstr-k

     

    ?


    • Posted on: 2018-02-09 16:53:12

      mstr-k

       

      I suppose it would be comparable to Ti considering it would be internal logic, but a comparison with Te would also be helpful