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Thinking vs feeling, task- vs people- oriented

I already made a thread for scientific papers, but I'm making a new once since this post has a point, instead of just being like, ooh that's cool. Look at the quote at the bottom of the post (from a Big Five science paper). There's an idea of "people oriented" and "task oriented" behavior (google for wikipedia article) and thinking vs feeling in mbti seems to be defined in that way. Using functions rather than solely relying on f/t doesn't save you there, as Te is said to be purely task-oriented, and Fe is said to be purely people oriented (while Fi and Ti are said to be purely internal processes).

The misconception is that thinkers [or equivalent term] are purely task oriented, and thats why they're gruff and dont' care about social niceties, and feelers are people oriented and stereotpically get too emotional which somehow naturally follows to being incompetent in personal tasks.

But I really like the quote from this paper, because it's basically saying that *everyone* has a social interaction half and a task oriented half of their personality. It's not that some people are less task oriented, it's just that everyone is better at some tasks than others. And turning away from others doesnt mean you arent interacting at all, as anything you do is still a stance, it's something you choose to do and your intentions will always be read by others. Even if you *think* you're a totally objective rational awesome thinker, as long as you're communicating your ideas to others, there is literally no way to opt out of affecting emotional and social content, because thats what youre doing whenever you interact with another being.

“Factors I, II, and IV define a three-dimensional affective–interpersonal personality space. ... Factors III (Conscientiousness) and V (Intellect), in turn, seem to be task oriented, rather than affective or interpersonal, and they are less easy to apply to personality descriptions of nonhuman mammals.”

Source: http://pages.uoregon.edu/gsaucier/Sacuier.Benchmarks.92.pdf

Posted by jujube on forum Posted on 2017-11-06 15:23:50

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  • Posted on: 2017-12-18 22:28:14

    sportsbrah

     

    "The misconception is that thinkers [or equivalent term] are purely task oriented, and thats why they're gruff and dont' care about social niceties, and feelers are people oriented and stereotpically get too emotional which somehow naturally follows to being incompetent in personal tasks." 

    This is why I like functions so much better than letters, because it's harder to create such stereotypes when you know they they are thought processes instead of life preferences.  But anyway, I think even most people who go strictly by letters know this is not true.  If it is true at all, its just the frame through which they work to accomplish something, rather than actual tasks in and of themselves. 

    Even if you *think* you're a totally objective rational awesome thinker, as long as you're communicating your ideas to others, there is literally no way to opt out of affecting emotional and social content, because thats what youre doing whenever you interact with another being. 

    I can't really speak for other thinkers, I'm a Ti dom and this is how I see it:  people might be affected emotionally by what I say, but it is irrelevant to the point I'm making and irrelevant to the factual/logical truth/debate, and if they want to talk about facts or logic they aught to throw that shit out the window.  Its not that their feelings aren't valid and shouldn't be addressed, its just not the subject at hand, and I am not the one to address them to.  That may seem harsh but I don't want to deal with it because I am not good at it and frankly I don't care until there is a reason that effects things I care about when discussing the issue.  


    • Posted on: 2017-12-18 22:29:25

      sportsbrah

       

      Sorry if I misread it, the article was both clear and convuluted at the same time, if I did, please explain. 


  • Posted on: 2017-11-06 19:11:16

    Kawaii_tha_marten

     
    Fi is not necessarily people lmao

    • Posted on: 2017-12-09 21:56:48

      holyTwig

       

      Depends on the person.


  • Posted on: 2017-11-06 17:56:30

    Khel

     
    "Zoon politikon"
    Man is a social animal. There is obviously going to be a people oriented side to anyone, as well as a task oriented one: maintain the cohesion of the societal entity, help it extend.