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Who is more social? ENFP or ISFJ

MBTI enneagram type of Who is more social? ENFP or ISFJ Realm:
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TOTAL MBTI VOTES: 27


ENFP - 14 vote(s)
ISFJ - 13 vote(s)

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TOTAL ENNEA VOTES: 6


7W6 - 4 vote(s)
2W1 - 1 vote(s)
2W3 - 1 vote(s)

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  • Posted on: 2018-02-05 06:55:45

    l3rooke

     

    Depends on what is meant by "social". More talkative? Probably ENFP. Get out more? ISFJ.


  • Posted on: 2018-02-05 04:50:58

    strawberry crisis

     

    hahahaha this entry may be proof that people like to type using archetypes of mbti types that don't really translate to anything in any system back and forth--but if you do actually interpret it to do so, then you come up with all sorts of strange conclusions that would be either outlandish or inconsistent.

    making si-fe more social than ne-fi makes things so complicated once you start talking about tertiary and inferior functions. being ti>fi would make you more social in entp vs enfp assuming that being fe>te would make you more social in infj vs intj, but many would probably also start coming up with random reasons for denying infj being more social than enfp since "ni" makes them less social somehow…leading to "si" somehow permitting more sociability than "ni"? i'm sure you'd find a way to justify that but it goes into a certain level of scrutiny with these functions that would eventually no longer become applicable to real people

    this would also imply with actual mbti that even though someone is e instead of i, being nfp makes them less social than sfj. since they share f, the actual conclusion you'd be able to derive from here is that sj is more social than np…and for what reason? there's really nothing about sociability that would really make me think s is more social than n and that j is more social than p--at least enough to actually counteract the e/i before the three letters.

    so what do y'all even mean when you say "isfj" is more social than "enfp"? this doesn't really make theoretical sense unless you're willing to (re?)define and justify things to work around these nuances.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-05 05:15:50

      DerekTheCleric

       

      E/I doesn't exclusively refer to how "social" you are per se. You can be energized by people and not be suited for normal interaction with them, and vice-versa. I mean, I'm sure you can at least concede that an INTP would be way more likely to be a recluse than an ISFJ - so it's not just an E/I thing. I have always thought of S and F as generally more social than N and T, but other people might disagree.

      I don't really have aan opinion on this page as I think there could be varying definitions for "social." ENFP is obviously the more talkative type, but I guess you might be more likely to find an ISFJ at an organized social event.


    • Posted on: 2018-02-05 05:33:13

      Elf Monster

       

      @strawberry "this would also imply with actual mbti that even though someone is e instead of i, being nfp makes them less social than sfj. since they share f, the actual conclusion you'd be able to derive from here is that sj is more social than np…and for what reason?"

      Well in the function system, they have different feeling functions, so you can't break it down that far. However, I'm not disagreeing with you from a standpoint of letter MBTI. The MBTI that uses letters and the MBTI that uses functions should honestly use different names for each type since they're honestly completely different systems and theres a ton of confusion because for example an ENFP in one system isn't an ENFP in the other. 


    • Posted on: 2018-02-05 06:00:06

      strawberry crisis

       

      Derek:

      “I'm sure you can at least concede that an INTP would be way more likely to be a recluse than an ISFJ - so it's not just an E/I thing.”

      I can’t, actually. Whether someone is way more likely to be a recluse may just be primarily dependent on how extraverted or introverted they are, even though it’s certainly not a 1:1 scenario. The weight NTP and SFJ attaches to those letters is somehow irrationally made out to be enough to be a more important factor in determining how social someone is even though they don’t really deal all that much with sociability at all. I don’t really agree with S and F being more social than N and T. 

      Elf Monster:

      If you disallow this level of scrutiny to be applied to your theory, then it fails as a logically put-together system by means of protecting itself from falsifiability. If they are “different” feeling functions, then the idea of breaking apart your archetypes by the functions it consists of is meaningless since they no longer would hold universal meanings that do not alter themselves depending on which type they manifest themselves in. 

      And as far as I know, there isn’t an “MBTI that uses functions” that has actually stuck around and worked. The actual MBTI function model shows the tertiary function to be oriented in the same direction as the auxiliary and the inferior functions, and no one types anyone that way. 


    • Posted on: 2018-02-05 06:05:10

      strawberry crisis

       

      Also, Derek, if you look at Form M, the introversion and extraversion questions often do directly relate to how  “social” you are (mingle well with others, or tend to keep more to yourself?). It’s not all about sociability but a lot questions do directly relate!


  • Posted on: 2018-02-04 22:28:03

    TheMan580

     

    ISFJ


  • Posted on: 2018-01-28 03:46:28

    Runey

     

    ISFJ wins here, spite entry.

    ENFPs are much more withdrawn than their stereotypes suggest.


  • Posted on: 2018-01-13 21:57:51

    DiamondDust

     

    ISFJ are more social than ENFP. But people are more drawn to ENFP.


    • Posted on: 2018-01-13 23:35:02

      Kawaii_tha_marten

       

      Reasoning?